Comments on: We offer Social Media Training! (Bullshit) http://socialmediarage.com/2009/08/18/we-offer-social-media-training-bullshit/ The Social Punching Bag Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:01:33 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Bdog2g2 http://socialmediarage.com/2009/08/18/we-offer-social-media-training-bullshit/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Bdog2g2 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:36:30 +0000 http://socialmediarage.com/?p=104#comment-16 Well I think the term "expert" has completely lost its meaning. And that goes for anywhere now. Hell I hear it on MSM all the time; economics expert, political experts, security expert, international relations expert....blah blah blah. More often than not those "experts" are just some shill who'll say what they need/want them to say. Or its just some douche who spouts his opinion and has NO problems either defending it or lying about what they said even if its on tape. I put many self-proclaimed Social Media "experts" in this same boat. If out of the gate you have to attach "expert" to your name/title, you probably don't have to credentials to work at Spuds carwash. Well I think the term “expert” has completely lost its meaning. And that goes for anywhere now. Hell I hear it on MSM all the time; economics expert, political experts, security expert, international relations expert….blah blah blah.

More often than not those “experts” are just some shill who’ll say what they need/want them to say. Or its just some douche who spouts his opinion and has NO problems either defending it or lying about what they said even if its on tape. I put many self-proclaimed Social Media “experts” in this same boat. If out of the gate you have to attach “expert” to your name/title, you probably don’t have to credentials to work at Spuds carwash.

]]> By: SilentJay74 http://socialmediarage.com/2009/08/18/we-offer-social-media-training-bullshit/comment-page-1/#comment-15 SilentJay74 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:12:37 +0000 http://socialmediarage.com/?p=104#comment-15 Great comment and insight! I agree we should let the market decided what they want to buy, but, would you buy a Pinto when you have the money for a Tesla? I think some people should be alerted to the fact they should investigate before you buy. Same applies to every purchase in life. Great comment and insight! I agree we should let the market decided what they want to buy, but, would you buy a Pinto when you have the money for a Tesla? I think some people should be alerted to the fact they should investigate before you buy. Same applies to every purchase in life.

]]> By: MWhit http://socialmediarage.com/2009/08/18/we-offer-social-media-training-bullshit/comment-page-1/#comment-14 MWhit Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:54:13 +0000 http://socialmediarage.com/?p=104#comment-14 Some of this ongoing debate reminds me of the attorneys who run the state legislative bodies in most states and in our Congress. Or maybe the mother church. God bless us, but we just can't stop ourselves from establishing some rules about who can make the rules or interpret them or whatever. "Training" in this context can range from teaching people how to turn on a computer to joining together in worshipful admiration of some well-documented, well-quoted guru. I'm not convinced that the loudest and most ubiquitous among us qualify as "experts," just as I am uncertain as to whether the quieter among us just might have it right. Imparting knowledge is possible at all levels. I understand the objection to "expert," but why not go all the way in this fast-changing landscape and say that the term should not be applied to anyone? As Jason Falls implies, things are moving, and it's possible that most of the experts are likely to be pushing old dogma at one stage or another. Would falling behind in one trending area be enough to rip the expert chevrons from such shoulders? Let the market decide what it wants to buy and let the true defenders in this arena provide Consumer Reports-style critique of bad training. There are a lot of social experts, I suspect, who can't train, just as there are a lot of wannabe experts who don't have the juice. Some of this ongoing debate reminds me of the attorneys who run the state legislative bodies in most states and in our Congress. Or maybe the mother church. God bless us, but we just can’t stop ourselves from establishing some rules about who can make the rules or interpret them or whatever. “Training” in this context can range from teaching people how to turn on a computer to joining together in worshipful admiration of some well-documented, well-quoted guru. I’m not convinced that the loudest and most ubiquitous among us qualify as “experts,” just as I am uncertain as to whether the quieter among us just might have it right. Imparting knowledge is possible at all levels. I understand the objection to “expert,” but why not go all the way in this fast-changing landscape and say that the term should not be applied to anyone? As Jason Falls implies, things are moving, and it’s possible that most of the experts are likely to be pushing old dogma at one stage or another. Would falling behind in one trending area be enough to rip the expert chevrons from such shoulders? Let the market decide what it wants to buy and let the true defenders in this arena provide Consumer Reports-style critique of bad training. There are a lot of social experts, I suspect, who can’t train, just as there are a lot of wannabe experts who don’t have the juice.

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